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| 08 Jan 2004 07:54 AM |
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Currently we are translating CAD data between 4 systems: V4<>V5<>UG-NX<>I-Deas. This is an everyday procedure. I'm not saying this is the right way to go about things, but this is the real world of CAD Design. Does anyone have some opinions/experience with a 3rd-party translator that could possibly work between all of these systems?
Also, I am having trouble saving a V5 part as a V4 model. It will either kick me out of V5R10SP3 or tell me that there was an error 7 and some of the elements could not be saved. Is there a way to clean the models to possibly help or fix this situation??
Thanks,
Mark
Author: Mark Lambrecht |
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| 08 Jan 2004 08:09 AM |
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My company has considerable experience translating between those systems. We have products that translate most of the systems you mentioned. We have to manually work with the data in V5 to get V4 to accept it, and vice versa. In fact, we have had a dedicated team helping one company move their V4 data into V5 for about a year.
We have a Support Service to help you with the more difficult translations. If you email me some contact information, and I give you call to see if we can help you, either with information, or tools.
Author: Gregory J. Hebert |
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| 09 Jan 2004 07:32 PM |
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Mark...
I can only imagine the headaches you are going through. I assume you have all 4 systems running in-house, and you are able to immediately verify the results of each transfer. But how do you keep up with the CAD vendor's frequent release upgrades, not to mention service packs? How much time do you spend testing translations after an upgrade?
Using standard data formats (like IGES, STEP, DXF, etc) probably make the release upgrades a little easier, but I'm sure you've found that not all elements are supported by the standard formats and/or CAD systems?
Using direct translators sounds like a better solution, but are the 3rd-party developers able to keep up with system updates? How much do they charge to update their translators when just one CAD system is updated? How quickly do they provide the updates?
I'd like to hear more from you on the real-world problems you're encounering. I'm sure others would also. What industry are you in (based on the CAD systems, I'd guess you're a automotive supplier)?
One good thing about your situation is job security for whomever is doing the translations!
Please write back,
....Jack
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| 12 Jan 2004 07:49 AM |
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We have the same situation. We use all the systems you mentioned except CATIA V5, for our various automotive customers. We also have to deal with importing AutoCAD, Solid Works, Solid Edge, and Pro-E data. Everything I have investigated costs mega bucks if you are talking about doing smart solid translations; that includes having a vendor performing this function. For dumb solid translations, STEP seems to work pretty well if all systems are using the same tolerance or the system's translator has "healing" abilities. Bringing complex objects into CATIA V4 always seems to be a problem and requires manual fixing.
I'd also like to know about a cost effective (emphasis) multi-platform translator that can be used in-house as well. Post if you find anything.
I've long campaigned we go to one CADD system and take a stand on doing so. The stringent OEM and tier one requirements have made this impossible to do so, however.
Gary S.
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| 18 Jan 2004 12:17 AM |
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We checked Proficiency over a year ago and got pretty good results. You can find more updated information in the following article:
http://www10.mcadcafe.com/nbc/articles/index.php?section=CorpNews&articleid=102941
or at
www.proficiency.com
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Yoram Retter
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| 19 Jan 2004 02:48 AM |
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Theorem Solutions does a range of converters for all your systems try www.theorem.co.uk or www.theorem-usa.co.uk for more information
Author: Gary Wood |
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| 23 Jan 2004 05:25 PM |
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Check Out Innovate by IronCAD for 'dumb transfers'. We mostly work in V4, but most of our tool sources are on UGNX and this seems to work really well.
Phil
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| 01 Mar 2004 06:53 AM |
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We looked at Proficiency also. However, We have purchased a piece of software called Accu-Trans from TTI. we had been working with it and testing it for a few months prior to purchasing. Accu-Trans does very well at translating solid models from one system to another WITH history. We have worked with a V4, V5 and UG mix with excellent results. This is not a sales pitch for TTI, I am just sharing our Experience with CAD translators. There is a dedicated indivivdual within our organization who is responsible for data translations. I would be more than happy to put anyone in contact with him if you desire more information.
Author: Scott Spencer |
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| 01 Mar 2004 07:58 AM |
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We looked various products also. We know the TTI suite.
The new release of Proficiency (CG 3.0) working very better, especially with big assembly /models. The most interesting results are in Catia V4-V5 and UGNX (Engine Application).
I am well happy to share our experiences.
Regards
Nazario
Author: Nazario Bellato |
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| 03 Mar 2004 02:50 PM |
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Do you have this software at your location or do you use the Internet to transfer your data to them? We have security issues about using the Internet so we need an "in-house" application.
Mark Lambrecht
V5 Development Engineer
Indiana, USA
Author: Mark Lambrecht |
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| 05 Mar 2004 04:58 AM |
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All tests are made "in house".
Why do not you use a secure or cryptographic comunication?
Generally in Europe the standard Odette is used (ENGdat).
Regards.
Nazario Bellato
R&D Design Methodologies
Magneti Marelli PowerTrain
Bologna (Italy)
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