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Subject: Annotations in 3DXML

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spokrie

04 Aug 2006 09:13 AM
Annotations are still only avaliable inside CATIA. We'll have to wait and see if R17 tagged it differently for the viewer.

Scott
THUNDERLASSE

04 Aug 2006 09:46 AM
Hi,

After digging to those files, I found:

<SpecificExtensionSet>
<SpecificExtension id="1" name="ANNOTATIONS3D">
<AssociatedData>PD94bWwgdmVyc2lvbj0iMS4wIi...mambojambo....Bbm5vdGF0aW9uPg==</AssociatedData>
</SpecificExtension>
</SpecificExtensionSet>


that surely includes binary package of your annotations.

=> CATIA writes annotations to 3DXML already, but free viewer can not show them... yet.

BR,
Lasse
THUNDERLASSE

09 Aug 2006 03:12 PM
Hi,

I just tested this testpart (product1) with CATIA v5R16sp6 and I was able to load 3DXML in catia, but not to show Annotations.... I thought that CATIA should be able to show them, when free viewer can't.

Anyone with different experiences?

BR,
Lasse
spokrie

10 Aug 2006 08:35 AM
I believe you have to have one of the FTA licenses, or the FTA viewer license (DT1), then you can see the FTA.

Scott
COE-FORUM-USER

09 Sep 2006 02:05 AM
Hello.

I'm writing some program in Java and I need to decode Associated Data to get geometry data out of 3dxml file. Do anyone know how to do it?
COE-FORUM-USER

09 Sep 2006 11:30 AM
Hi,

My understanding is that DS has made a strategical decision to keep this data encrypted. => No way, not at least for free.

This allows them to get money from "advanced feature read" on future 3DXML readers... This doesn't make me happy

BR,
Lasse
CRAIG HELM


11 Sep 2006 07:26 AM
So has anyone been able to view annotations in 3dxml? I am just curious. I don't mess with it anymore since it doesn't look like it will prove to be useful to me.

-craig helm
Catia V5 R16 | Windows XP SP2 | Intel P4 3.4GHz | 2GB RAM | ATI FireGL V3100 128 MB DDR
COE-FORUM-USER

11 Sep 2006 09:21 AM
Craig,

No luck, even R16sp6 with AL2 fails to show annotations that are inside 3DXML.

BR,
Lasse

COE-FORUM-USER

20 Sep 2006 05:54 PM
I dont get it... 3DXML viewer Release notes for viewer 2.0 says:

3. Release Notes Version 2.0 (July 20, 2006)
• Support of 3D XML files using fonts

But even Viewer version 2.1 shows complete blank for any annotation or notation.

What "Support of 3D XML files using fonts" can mean that I don't get?

BR,
Lasse
CRAIG HELM


21 Sep 2006 07:43 AM
I think it is a mistype. If you look at it carefully, you can see what I believe the really meant.

3. Release Notes Version 2.0 (July 20, 2006)
• Suckers

There must just be some major miscommunication between marketing, admin, the 3DXML group, and the programmers. What they have been doing lately with this shows one of the following

1) They are really messed up and don't know what they are doing
2) They are flat out lying
3) We all just can't figure it out

Who knows really!

-craig helm
Catia V5 R16 | Windows XP SP2 | Intel P4 3.4GHz | 2GB RAM | ATI FireGL V3100 128 MB DDR
COE-FORUM-USER

21 Sep 2006 10:49 AM
Craig,

I'll go and ask this from DS, we'll see if they answer with option 1,2 or 3... I bet that their answer will be number 3, with a mind bending explanation, but somewhere between lines will obiously be real reason that has some parts of number 1 and 2 at the same time. At least it'll be fun.

BR,
Lasse
COE-FORUM-USER

21 Sep 2006 12:57 PM
Would Acrobat's 3D model reading abilities read a Catia part or assembly.
CRAIG HELM


21 Sep 2006 02:21 PM
Supported file formats in Adobe Acrobat 3D:
- 3D Studio ASC (*.asc)
- 3D Studio MAX ASCII (*.ase)
- 3D Studio Mesh (*.3ds, *.prj)
- Autodesk AutoCAD (*.dxf)
- Autodesk Inventor (*.ipt, *.iam)
- CATIA 4 (*.model, *.dlv, *.cgr)
- CATIA 5 (*.catproduct, *.catpart)
- Ideas part and assembly (*.mf1, *arc, *unv, *.pkg)
- Initial Graphics Exchange (*.iges, *.igs)
- JT Open (*.jt)
- Lattice 3D (*.xv3, *.xv0)
- LightWave (*.lw, *.lwo, *.lws)
- MicroStation CAD Graphic (*.dgn)
- Parasolid (*.x_t, *.x_b)
- Pro/ENGINEER (*.prt, *.prt*, *.xpr, *.asm, *.asm*, *.xas)
- Rhinoceros 3D Model (*.3dm)
- Right Hemisphere (.rh)
- Softimage XSI (*.xsi)
- Solid Edge (*.par)
- SolidWorks (*.sldasm, *.sldprt)
- STEP/Standard for the Exchange of Product Model Data
- Stereo Lithography (*.stl)
- Unigraphic Parts and Assemblies (*.prt)
- Universal 3D (*.u3d)
- Virtual Reality Modeling Language (*.vrml, *.wrl)
- Wavefront Object (*.obj)

-craig helm
Catia V5 R16 | Windows XP SP2 | Intel P4 3.4GHz | 2GB RAM | ATI FireGL V3100 128 MB DDR
COE-FORUM-USER

21 Sep 2006 02:25 PM
Acrobat3D will read CATParts and CATProduces, I think up to R15, but it won't read 3D Annotation, sections, ...

Scott
THUNDERLASSE

15 Oct 2006 03:04 PM
Craig,

After asking directly from DS an answer for this question:

"
What "Support of 3D XML files using fonts" can mean that I don't get?
"

I got an answer from DS that was like ...erm...ahem.... well... why do you need to know?

So your quess number one: "1) They are really messed up and don't know what they are doing" is correct.

I'll get back to this topic if I ever find an answer that makes more sense.


BR,
Lasse

fighterpilot


16 Oct 2006 07:12 AM
By the time DS figures out what direction they might want to go, another, more customer focused company, will have delivered something.

I'm not waiting around for the answer....

--
Fighterpilot
Manufacturing Engineer
Cat-Man-Do

24 Oct 2006 09:27 AM
I got a demo CD from Adobe last week at the Aero COE show. It has a PDF on it that has FTA in it. It is not perfect but they are getting close; closer than the 3DXML viewer. I attached an image of what the annotation looks like. The dimensions are there but the tolerance block is missing the tolerance. So for a $1000(us) you can publish your files and anyone else can read them. I haven’t made the purchase yet but it is coming.


kvpavankumar

10 Oct 2008 11:57 AM
Hi Folks,
May I know if any one is using the Model Based Definition and not using Paper drawings at all?.

Thank you,
Pavan
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