Webinar Announcement :

Subject Best practices and interconnectivity for  tool, holders adapter, catalogs, shop documentation, tool lists , 3rd party potential solutions

Date To Be determined by COE DPC / DS

COOL:  There will be multiple speakers

Main Speaker:  Mark Chitjian COE DPC

Agenda

(Subject to ideas from you but here is the start )

1. start with a demo of using excel to start a catalog with VB

2. Talk about the 2 different kinds of holders,  User representations / and those made with the GUI

3. Talk about the collision checking differences with these 2 different holder types mentioned, a Possible enhancement.

4. Invite any 3rd party tool management system, to describe their solution to us.

A.: I  already spoke with (CGTECH), and he can have someone do a short demo on CATIA V5 interface

B: I already spoke with Steve Sullivan (TDM), and he can have someone do a short demo on on the Tool Data Managment package.

I am sure Daniel Pyzak (Dassault Systems), will want to participate, and I will speak with him 12 noon PST tomorrow

This is #8 on PAC-MEN list

This shows a continuing effort on progress with the PAC-MEN & Dassault Systems, &  COE working together.

Right now, I think the solution for FMI, is to:

Create a Master Catalog in Excel

Use the Use My Model feature, to use a Catpart, as a user representation.

Use CATIA V5 interface to create tool list for Vericut

We PAC-MEN can discus our requirements, for the BIG PICTURE

I would like to try to Get Dassault Systems to enhance the software to:

1. use the user representation for all collision functionality, and  3-5 axis, etc.

2. Possibly create a new functionality, a linked tool catalog, not slurping tools out of the catalog, and placing them on the resource list

3. Where there is a tool catalog where multiple can users can use the same tool catalog, and there is some kind of live update.

Once again, the best questions are asked by the Beachman

Here it the thread that started it all. slurped from Steve Beaches thread

What's everybody doing for their cutters / adaptors / assemblies ?

 The basic question stems from maintaining accurate representations of cutters in their holders, ensuring the latest changes are in the CATProcesses., without duplication of work by having to define the SAME cutters on several software's.

 Our dream is to

1) Have a cutter defined somewhere

2) Have an adaptor defined somewhere

 3) Have the ability to call up an assembly of cutters / adaptors / secondary adaptors etc. 4) Have the SAME definitions be able to work in Catia, Vericut, and our ERP system. (ie: avoid the duplication of effort !!)

Our ULTIMATE dream would be that if ANY of the component were updated, the next time you entered into a CATProcess, you would be flagged that one or more of the cutters in th CATProcess have been updated since the last save. Then you could decide to update to the newest, or re-create a cutter that will keep the current CATProcess AS-IS.

Example...... 

1)A Catprocess as a 1" end Mill w/ a 4.500" stick out.

2) We update the stick out on the cutter to 4.4".

3) We want the CATProcess to at LEAST flag us that the cutter has changed and we will need to verify that it still valid....or make an update to our program.

 Any ideas guys ?

What's working ?

What' not ?

 Are you defining cutters offline in Catia, then using them as NC Representations ? Walter TDM ?

 How does all this integrate.

This is anothr BIG subject.......

 Regards,

 Steve Beach

Supervisor N/C programming GKN Aerospace - Monitor Inc.

 Amityville, Long Island, NY

I think links to all the relevant posts should be in one place.

I will work on that

Dave

Tool catalogs

http://www.coe.org/Collaboration/DiscussionForum/ActiveDiscussions/tabid/210/forumid/5/postid/113799/view/topic/Default.aspx

Walters TDM

http://www.coe.org/Collaboration/DiscussionForum/ActiveDiscussions/tabid/210/forumid/5/postid/88709/view/topic/Default.aspx

Subject: Let's discuss Cutter / Adaptor Management

http://www.coe.org/Collaboration/DiscussionForum/ActiveDiscussions/tabid/210/forumid/5/postid/117461/view/topic/Default.aspx

Webinar update

1. Date not set yet, waiting for open calendar dates from Dassault Systems possible participant(s),

2. Had a review with Steve S. of Walter TDM today , of topics for his presentation, along with the COE DPC,.

3.  Steve S. of Walter TDM has cd's of information available, so if anyone wants I can forward your contact info to him, so you can get a cd.

4. I have agreement from CGTech, to review CATV5 interface.

5. I expect this to be an extremely productive event, and hope to generate an ER that create new functionality, and clears up questions.

6. I want to thank again, the COE DPC, Mark, and Jim, for supporting PAC-MEN,

7, This is a timely and important topic that affects all manufacturing users.

8. This type of activity, in my mind,  reinforces the fact that PAC-MEN, COE and the DPC are truly a year round effort.

Have a great weekend

Dave

Who in the PAC-MEN group, would be interested in being a Beta Tester for pre-release versions and SP's

Lets be proactive, and offer our assistance,

Than see if Dassault takes up on the offer.

My guess is, eventually they will once overcoming logistical hurdles.

Testing by us, I think, will help deliver cleaner versions, without having  some of the little nuisance things that come up.

I do not know what the DS Beta policy is, but I can politely say it could improve a tad. Lets offer to help.

Also, any one out there that wants to join the PAC-MEN group, come on in. The waters warm.

I would be happy to, but I only have an educational license.

It unlocks everything though.

I normally load service packs on my educational computer as soon as they come out anyway.

A few of you have asked me about the COE Discussion Forum Awards winners. I contacted COE, and they did make a post. Here is the link

 http://www.coe.org/EventsEducation/AnnualConferenceTechniFair/COEForumContributorNomitations/tabid/754/Default.aspx

Congratulations to those of you in the PAC_MEN group, and other winners. we have grown to get to know

As you see, I, representing the PAC_MEN group, was give the COE spirit award.

I want thank all of you that helped out with PAC_MEN, and contributed all the good ideas.. Those good ideas that drew the attention of Dassault Systems development management, which in turn, made PAC_MEN successful.

At the closing ceremony, Rich Perlman,  reviewed all of these awards, and then call me to the stage. He described to the audience, how all of us worked together on the good ideas, brought it to DS, and the Annual Conference DPC.

The continuing Webinar's, will keep the ER train rolling.

Still waiting for Vacations to be over in France, for DS participation in the Webinar

Best Regards

Dave

Amrit,

I invite you Join our PAC-MEN enhancement group

COE & PAC-MEN are getting things done.

We don't care where you are, or if you are new to V5,  only that you have good ideas and the passion to deliver them.

Please take some time to check out the posts as there is a lot of info here.  It's fun to start at the beginning, and watch the momentum grow, as COE, and Dassault personnel chimed in.

You do not need to be a COE member, to be a PACMEN, but as you explore the pages of this thread, you will see the benefits joining COE documented,

Ask any questions about COE & PAC-MEN

Please take a close look at the posts by Mark Chitjian as he is the COE DPC chair, especially the one dated 08 May 2008 10:44 AM

Here is a snippet from that

COE has setup a Manufacturing Forum open to COE members only. The purpose of this forum is to allow more open discussion and dialogue of sensitive topics without the public visibility on the "open" forum. One of our goals in this forum is to encourage DS to participate in these discussions without the fear of the competition having any visibility. At this time I believe all PACMEN members (who are COE members) should have access to the forum.

Any COE member can join the forum by making a request to Jim Barkelew or myself, we will grant you access. It is a great reason to become a COE member.

Best Regards, Dave

Amrit,

Welcome to the COE Forum. As Dave has mentioned, there are many benefits to being a COE member. Jim Barkelew and I are the chairman of the NC DPC (Development Planning Council). Our function is to collect, distribute and monitor all member enhancement requests sent to DS. We are the interface between the users and DS. The manufacturing forum has quite a few savvy contributors and we enjoy spirited discussions on many topics. Lots of knowledgeable people frequent this forum.

There will be many excellent presentations at the COE Aero Workshop in October. Check the home page of this website for more details. Going to the workshops is a great way to meet and compare notes with people in your industry. It is definitely worthwhile to attend.

Once you become a member, let Jim Barkelew or myself know and we can sign you up for access to the "Members Only" forum. It is monitored by DS and they post on occassion.