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| 29 Sep 2001 04:29 AM |
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If there is a large installed base of Linux on client workstations, Catia will be ported to it. If the numbers are too small, it won't be.
Ian
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 25 Sep 2001 06:55 PM |
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I'm writing this on Linux (Debian). If Catia V5 support
Linux, V5 becomes very attractive. As UG still doesn't
support Linux, I hope V5 will support LInux quicker than
UG.
Cheers,
Author: Uchida Masatomo |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 07:10 AM |
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I really hope that your choice of engineering applications is not driven by your choice of operating system, that would be totally backwards.
Author: Phil Harrison |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 07:48 AM |
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Suresh, I believe that IBM is pushing Linux is a server operating system, more for mail / web etc. I don't think that they are pushing it as a client operating system.
While I agree Linux is interesting I'd be concerned about the lack of 3d OpenGL graphics & the issue of support.
Author: Phil Harrison |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 09:29 AM |
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Linux has an OpenGL package (Mesa), and all the support you could want. A lot of good support is free, but plenty of good/better support is available for a price.
As for IBM's support, why would they (or Dassault) offer desktop support without some indication from their customer base that it is desired?
Author: Cameron McElhinny |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 09:34 AM |
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Linux has an OpenGL package (Mesa), and all the support you could want. A lot of good support is free, but plenty of good/better support is available for a price.
As for IBM's support, why would they (or Dassault) offer desktop support without some indication from their customer base that it is desired?
Author: Cameron McElhinny |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 10:12 AM |
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Linux has an OpenGL package (Mesa), and all the support you could want. A lot of good support is free, but plenty of good/better support is available for a price.
As for IBM's support, why would they (or Dassault) offer desktop support without some indication from their customer base that it is desired?
Author: Cameron McElhinny |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 10:25 AM |
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It may have an OpenGL package but Linux has not yet been stressed in an engineering application area where 3D graphics performance is critical.
>> why would they (or Dassault) offer desktop support without some indication from their customer base that it is desired?
Are you really suggesting that the customer base does not want CATIA on Intel/Windows? Look at the market place. Running CATIA on PCs has been a strategic requirement from COE for many years.
While there may be problems in installing V5 in large organisations it is very easy for small companies to implement CATIA on NT. Remember that these companies have no UNIX skills or admin specialists.
It's also vital to provide an environment where CATIA can operate with other desktop applications such as word/excel.
Author: Phil Harrison |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 10:28 AM |
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It may have an OpenGL package but Linux has not yet been stressed in an engineering application area where 3D graphics performance is critical.
>> why would they (or Dassault) offer desktop support without some indication from their customer base that it is desired?
Are you really suggesting that the customer base does not want CATIA on Intel/Windows? Look at the market place. Running CATIA on PCs has been a strategic requirement from COE for many years.
While there may be problems in installing V5 in large organisations it is very easy for small companies to implement CATIA on NT. Remember that these companies have no UNIX skills or admin specialists.
It's also vital to provide an environment where CATIA can operate with other desktop applications such as word/excel.
Author: Phil Harrison |
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 26 Sep 2001 11:44 AM |
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First, I appologize if my posts are showing up twice: I am getting errors when I submit, but they seem to go anyway.
> Linux has not yet been stressed in an engineering application area where 3D graphics performance is critical
1. Most of the effects for Titanic were produced using Linux.
2. PC Hardware is PC Hardware. The systems you have running Windows can run Linux, and performance should be nearly the same. Drivers are a problem for Linux, but many graphics companies are providing Linux drivers now.
3. A lot of these issues have to do with Market size. If the Linux market grows, more vendors will support it. There has to be early adopters to reach the critical mass.
> Are you really suggesting that the customer base does not want CATIA on Intel/Windows?
You know I never said that. I think a portion of the customer base wants CATIA on Intel/Linux, and Dassault should consider it. Why is it a bad thing to have a choice? We can have Windows, AIX, IRIX, HPUX, SunOS, but not Linux?
> It's also vital to provide an environment where CATIA can operate with other desktop applications such as word/excel.
We lived with V4 for a lot of years without operating with desktop applications, but I agree it is a valuable feature. There are many word processers and spreadsheets available for Linux.
This is my position:
Having the option of CATIA on Linux would provide value to Dassault customers.
Author: Cameron McElhinny |
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| 01 Oct 2001 06:44 AM |
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What kind of exodus ? I know a lot of CATIA users who have never seen any RS6K ! We here have over 1000 seats without one RS6000 (only SUN and SGI), IBM don't care.
Author: Centa |
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| 01 Oct 2001 06:58 AM |
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Phil,
You're right, but we also have to consider the ecnomical view-point. We here have a thousand of SUN and SGI and now comes V, we have to add at-least 256k in each box ? Do you know the price of 256k fro a PC and 256k for an UNIX workstation ?
Do you know the future of SGI ? Do you think HP merger with Compaq will boost their UNIX activity ? Are you sure about SUN ?
Say we could choose Windows, but we are not very confident in their networks solutions, we have no experience in managing more than 50 or 75 Microstations.
Linux would be a good transition as people are trained, as well as architects, as developpers, as sytem-engineers, as end-users.
Author: Centa |
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| 03 Oct 2001 03:01 AM |
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It is reported that DS had CATIA running on Linux quite a while ago (i.e. it's ported already)
As for the issue of choice, adding another platform means that DS & IBM has to support yet another platform & therefore waters down support for the other platforms.
Out of interest, anyone know if PTC or UG run on Linux?
Author: Phil Harrison |
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| 12 Dec 2001 10:32 AM |
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according to a recent article(Main Stream) in the LinuxJuournal (#92) CatiaV5 has been ported to Linux.
they just have not decided to what they are going to do with it.
as for ProE, there is a german article with screen shot showing it on redhat.
http://www.ptc.com/germany/company/newsletter/inews/inhalt_03_00/53.pdf
hows your german
Author: Keith |
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| 11 Jun 2002 05:23 PM |
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http://www.ptc.com/company/news/press/releases/20020610linux.htm
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COE-FORUM-USER
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| 12 Jun 2002 03:52 AM |
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The debate between Windows NT/2000/XP ... and Linux is now serious with Eastern Europe. I know that in Slovachia they prefer free software to Microsoft stuff !
They are pushing heavily students to learn Linux, Open Office etc ... Our students (children) are born and grown-up in a total windows dependancy. This is no more the case in the countries where the business is starting. DS, i.e. Francis, who is in charge of these markets development, should be aware of this.
Author: Philippe Centa |
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