In Reply to Samarinder Singh:
If you have used UG then you will understand the importance of
In Reply to Alex Smygov:
How about leaving all macro management and feed/speed management
the way it is... and calculate material by constant volume and chip
thickness removal... so once everything get replayed in Catia with
stock material removal it will pop out moded feeds like CGTech
Optipath and Volumill?... I would like to see that... not
complicate anything but simplify... more options will bring
additional confusion to programmers that transfer from UG, etc to
Hi Samarinder, and everyone else.
Alex is a very
smart guy. I am sure he understands he value of this
enhancement…… He just wants Volumill motion more then
I am pretty sure that what Alex is innocently doing
is trying to make the point that getting Optipath like feed
management, and Volumill like motion IS SO IMPORTANT, that he does
what some other COE members have done: ……They
say don't do that, do this instead.
If you read this whole thread you will see that our good friend
Bryan Felsher wrote a white paper on why this enhancement should
not be implemented, how he would prefer and 100% of the developers
time should be spent eliminating regressions, and fixing bugs.
Now Bryan is an excellent programmer. I am sure Bryan would love
it, if all the ideas on this thread were implemented,
and Dassault did not take away any functionality, or skew something
up in the process. Not everyone says exactly what they mean.
As I have stated many times Bryan is right. eliminating
regressions, and fixing bugs is very important. Bryan has stated
many times, what is most important to him is STABLE BUG FREE
As far as Alex's comments are concerned, I agree 100% that
Optipath Volumill are important. I have personally discussed
all these things with Patrick Touron, and also the developers I am
BUT I WOULD REQUEST THAT WHEN PEOPLE WANT TO ADVOCATE A PET
PROJECT, THAT THEY DO SO WITHOUT HIJACKING MY THREADS WITH OFF
TOPIC COMMENTS THAT SAY " PLEASE DO NOT IMPLEMENT WHAT DAVE
SUGGESTS, DO MY THING INSTEAD"
Every one has the freedom of speech here. but I think that the
don’t do this do that instead mantra is counterproductive,
and dilutes my messages. Actually they are OUR MESSAGE.
This is a large problem for me because I put a lot of time into
documenting Valid , important, and valuable enhancements over the
years. We need and get good results for all of us.
I has said many times…. We can have our cake and eat it
too. but this practice of don’t do this do that instead, is
not ………….. democratic. It is who shouts
the longest or most often.
I do not really know what I am going to do about this. I love
the COE forum, and I love you guys, but I do not have the time, or
the inclination, to debate these don’t do this do that
And THAT is the
reason why I have not been posting any more ER's on the
Not until I figure out how to solve this problem. This thread
was the straw that broke the camels back for me.
I do have One solution I have been kicking around. I Have been
accumulating a Large list of small enhancements for R23, and
I may only send them into Dassault and the COE DPC rather then post
One solution I have been kicking around is to request that
COE sends the list to all COE MFG subscribers, when I
am done, and either allow me to do a Webinar on the content, or
have some other form of method to EDUCATE the user base on the
Value of the enhancements', and get RELEVENT feedback to get the
best possible IMPLEMENTATION of these enhancements.
Besides the don’t do this to that instead, is the "With my
superior VB and Process skills, I can do this without any
enhancements" Again, understood, but it dilutes the message.
I know I speak for many, when I say many programmers want functions
without needing VB experts, and all that. Other do want to be VB
experts themselves, but do not have permission, or budgets for
training or time for the development.
I hope people really read, and understand this post.
There are many OTHER ways for programmers to their ideas to
Posting on the COE Forum is just one of them.
In my opinion, unless something changes, it is not worth it for
me to take the extra time of putting my ER ideas on the COE Forum.
I can email my ideas to the power users, get good feedback, and
send the best polished ER into Dassault.
My motivations are as always, to get us all better software.
I am open to suggestions on the best way to solve this
"don’t do that do this instead" problem.
I am not angry. I just made a business decision. Working to get
needed enhancements is a good expenditure of my time, and get
valuable return on my companies ALC investment, which is quite
large. I think we have 10 CATIA seats not.
But uploading ER's on the COE forum, is not a good
expenditure of my time. Answering unrelated counterproductive
replies is a unnecessary distraction.
Enjoy the weekend folks.
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