Asking for more CATIA tutorials

After looking through the embedded online documentation in CATIA, i feel it's a just dictionary clearly describing what every function is about, but it is not adequate for me to make a good essay.

Could anyone recommend some tutorials with detailed instructions, starting from zero and the final product being close to be a commericial product? In market, i can only find some books teaching me how to draw a jar or a box with some holes!

CATIA Companion is a good source of general V5 training.

You say you want to write an essay? What exactly are you looking for?

If you want to know how to use it, then the docs show this, if you want to know processes, then you want to talk to a company using it. But, processes, are mostly proprietary, so you will probably have a hard time getting that from anyone, unless you hire a consultant.

Catia is using a different design approach from ProE or UG. if we use the UG way to work with catia, we may find many commands missing but in fact they have been replaced by better ones.

More design exercises with detailed steps are helpful to change our old mindset to switch from other softwares.
That is missing in the online doc.

i don't think SMEs could afford to hire a consultant... books or short-term training may be within their consideration.

Try reading the pdf help files (discs 5 & 6). They're much easier to read than the html ones.

just an fyi the pdf user guides have been discontinued with R17

Lovely. And the documentation starting in R16 includes ActiveX Controls that my PC Sys Admins won't allow. Guess I'll have to bring in my own personal laptop and load the help docs ther - oops. Can't do that either. Thanks DS!

Jim are you really really sure? The documentation requires the Sun Java Runtime as it always has. I don't think Active X has replaced that.

The Internet explorer security message says "... scripts or Active X ..." buts it's really just scripts and not Active X. I got the message after Windows update foisted the new IE upon me and for some reason I opened IE open instead of firefox.

However, it does suck that there is not a plain no-scripting-of-any-kind-required html index page available for the security challenged.

All I know is that IE has problems with the R16 docs, and my PC group won't lower the security. Of course, we don't have it in production yet - so I may try to raise a stink when we try to productionize any version that has this problem.

Jim if you the user guides are hosted on an internal site make that site a trusted site and see if that fixes your issues with IE.

My issue with the User Guides has been little to no why... And that when the User Guides are hosted on a corporate web server the example files are not zipped to ease downloading to local drive.

We have found that R17 docs don't have the same ActiveX component that R16 had, and we haven't seen the problem.

As for making it a trusted site, that would require that I have access to that portion of IE's options panel. I don't (even though I have admin privileges on my PC). And they have refused to make this change for us globally.

I agree the online doc is more a kind of "dictionary".
But that's the purpose of it.
A quick way to find info about a cpecific problem or topic, and some small examples.

Companion is for self training, but I found it very limited (just for starters).

DS has also very good training material. And I think this is what here was asked for.
This material has improved a lot in the las 3 years. And is being enhanced on each release.
As far as I know this training material is only for DS / IBM Vars-Partners who have signed a special educational agreement.
So you should ask DS or a partner (and of course, will cost money ...)

Their training would have had to come a VERY long way to be what I would consider good. The DS training that I have experienced was mostly step-by-step, lead you by the nose kind of instruction. There were no "free exercises", and there was no discussion of the theory behind what you were doing - thus a user trying to apply that training to a similar circumstance was pretty much on his own.

Jim,

I used DS training to teach ADV Meshing. I agree with the step by step, this is not good, but this is where a real trainer can make the difference. I used each exercise the DS way then my way. It was a good experience. I also created my own exercises. I have to give some feedback to DS about their file, but the overall is it is a good documentation as it bring questions...

A good training is not done with only good documentation.

Absolutely, the trainer brings much to the table. But a good trainer can be even better with good material. It shouldn't be up to the trainer to provide additional materials - especially basic stuff. A good trainer will always embellish, but I feel that theory and free exercises should be part of the basic, not the embellishment.

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