V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges

Randy Hitzeman

V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges

All,
We just rolled to V5R30 SP2. This release has a lot of very nice enhancements, me likey.
Unfortunately, there is a vexing problem that I've encountered.
In video replay, when the corner radius of the cutter is in primary contact with the part, Catia is falsely flagging a gouge error.
It occurs when I'm kellering a flange top radius or other surfaces.
I've made certain that I have Tools>Options>Machining>Photo/Video "Touch is Collision" is toggled off.
None of these "Phantom Gouges" shows up in Vericut.

Has anyone else experienced this problem.  

Randy Hitzeman

Tony Walker

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Randy Hitzeman)

Can you post the "What's New" for prismatic and surface machining from the documentation?  We haven't loaded it yet..  wonder if its worth the time!!

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Dave Frank

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Randy Hitzeman)

Good Morning Randy,

I have requested insight on your issue from Dassault NC Machining R&D, and will update what they say

 

Dave 


Dave Frank  *    Dasco Engineering.

NC Programming Lead

COE Product Co-Chairman, Digital Numerical Control

 

Randy Hitzeman

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Tony Walker)

Tony,
There haven't loaded the help docs yet.
We leapt from V5R28 to V5R30, so I'm not sure of what was added in R29 or what was added in R30.
I like the green symbol that flags a sketch as fully constrained.
We can finally store macros associated to rouging routines, I was tired of reinventing the wheel every time I used a roughing routine.
Haven't checked out circular milling yet, but hopefully the fixed the macros in that operation.

Randy Hitzeman

Kevin Arnold

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Randy Hitzeman)

Its online

https://media.3ds.com/support/progdir/all/?pdir=v5,r2020,sp4&context=onpremises

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Randy Hitzeman

V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Dave Frank)
Dave,

Sorry I’m late on getting you this sample program that shows my problem.
I work in a large organization, and it had to go thru channels here first.

Our IT guy is having problems trying to submit an SR on this, and said to go with having you work this issue.
Attached is a simple small program that highlights the issue that I’m having.

Thanks for your help.

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Good Morning Randy,

I have requested insight on your issue from Dassault NC Machining R&D, and will update what they say



Dave

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Dave Frank * Dasco Engineering.

NC Programming Lead

COE Product Co-Chairman, Digital Numerical Control



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Bruno Tacci

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Randy Hitzeman)

Hi Randy and Dave,

The problem comes from the user representation of the ball nose tool. If you remove the user representation, the problem disappears. It's now fixed by R&D; the fix will be available from V5R30 SP5. Best regards.

Dave Frank

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Bruno Tacci)

Hi Bruno,

Wow, that was fast!  on behalf of the COE members , we thank Dassault Systemes R&D for your support!

 To COE members ….  this is how getting issues fixed is done. make a tiny part and process that shows the issue, is so much easier that  verbally describing an issue and hoping it can be reproduced.

Thanks Randy, for putting the files package together.

 

Best Regards

Dave

 


Dave Frank  *    Dasco Engineering.

NC Programming Lead

COE Product Co-Chairman, Digital Numerical Control

 

Randy Hitzeman

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Dave Frank)

Would it be possible to get a hot fix for this.
Everything we program here uses cutters chosen from tool catalogs that have user representations associated to them.

What level of Catia we use is dictated to us by the prime contractor, and I don't know when or if we will migrate to SP5.  

Randy Hitzeman

Bruno Tacci

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Randy Hitzeman)

Yes, it's possible. You have to open a Critsit Service Request with the data you have provided. Best regards, Bruno.

Randy Hitzeman

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Bruno Tacci)

My company has requested a hot fix for this problem.
 Will keep you posted.

Randy Hitzeman

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Randy Hitzeman

RE: V5R30 SP2 Video Replay Phantom Gouges
(in response to Randy Hitzeman)

All,

We requested a Hot Fix for this problem and we got it.

Hot Fix 14 is now installed for all N/C programming computers and it works.

Randy Hitzeman